There are two reasons for suspecting that phosphate complexes of arginine make it very difficult to derive gating charge in voltage gated potassium (and presumably sodium) channels from the motion of charged arginines. For one thing, the arginines should be complexed with phosphate, thereby neutralizing the charge, at least partially. Second, Li et al.(1) have shown that there is a large energy penalty for putting a charged arginine into a membrane. on channel gating current is generally attributed to S4 motion, in that the S4 segment of the voltage sensing domain (VSD) of these channels contains arginines, some of which are not (or at least not obviously) salt bridged, or otherwise charge compensated. There is, however, good reason to expect that there should be a complex of these arginines with phosphate, very probably from lipid headgroups. This has consequences for gating current; the complexed arginines, if they moved, would carry too much of the membrane along. This leads to the suggestion that an alternative to S4 physical motion, H+ transport, should be considered as a possible resolution of the apparent paradox. The consequences for a gating model that was proposed in our earlier work are discussed; there is one major difference in the model in the present form (a conformational change), but the proton cascade as gating current and the role of water in the closed state are reinforced.